[OAI-general] concerns about new OAIster terms/conditions

[garthus1 at lilrc.org]

Hussein, Peter, all,

Why is the intent this person claims different from the wording in the
documentation. This is the way that it always starts; google's intent is
not to snap up all of the orphan works out their, but just to make them
available to the publi more easily (while they grab more money). Open
library is a good alternative, but then again OCLC and the few large
corporate publishers will not be making any money from that data.

Gerry






> Hussein, Peter, all,
>
> OCLC's intent is to do what we did at University of Michigan, harvest the
> metadata. It is not the intent to go beyond that to capture the content
> itself. OCLC is working with their legal department on this issue.
> Unfortunately, that is all I can offer at the moment. I will provide more
> as
> it comes available.
>
> Regards,
>  -Kat
>
>
> On 9/22/09 12:37 PM, "Peter C. Gorman" <pgorman at library.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hussein,
>>
>> I see what you mean - we don't have the legal right to grant OCLC
>> these permissions, except perhaps for PD or
>> institutionally-copyrighted materials. Much of what we host is by
>> non-transferrable permission of copyright holders, so we couldn't
>> agree to these terms, either - not as currently written.
>>
>> At 3:02 PM +0200 9/22/09, Hussein Suleman wrote:
>>> hi
>>>
>>> i recently received a request to register one of the IRs/archives i
>>> manage with OCLC, as OAIster transitions to OCLC.
>>>
>>> i am concerned that the terms and conditions cover both metadata AND
>>> all forms of data ... while OAIster harvested metadata, OCLC appears
>>> to want to claim more rights associated with digital objects. i
>>> believe this goes against one of the fundamental principles of the
>>> OAI-PMH - that we harvest metadata only.
>>>
>>> in most institutional repositories this is a minefield of legal
>>> problems, as the majority of commercial publishers only allow users
>>> to archive versions in their IRs with specific restrictions,
>>> different in each case (see RoMEO).
>>>
>>> we need to be aware that the rules are changing before we simply
>>> click on "I agree". personally, until this is resolved "I do not
>>> agree" :)
>>>
>>> ttfn,
>>> ----hussein
>>>
>>> --
>>> =====================================================================
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>>> =====================================================================
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